Interview with Kallidaikurichi Mahadeva Bhagavatar
Kallidaikurichi Mahadeva Bhagavatar - torch bearer of the Kallidaikurichi
school of the Dikshitar parampara, a student of Vedanta Bhagavatar and
Ambi Dikshitar.
We requested him to sing .And he willingly obliged.He was accompanied
by his grandson and disciple Narayanan.They sang 'KamalambAm bhajare'.As
they sang the very first line we could discern the distinct usage of his
school.We also requested him to sing Chandram Bhaja [their version has
the 5th line in the madhyama kala passage with the rashyadipathi reference
'kamanIya vara kaTaka rAshyAdhipaM' and the starting line 'candraM bhaja
re re mAnasa']. He sings and goes on to explain, "asAveri does not have
catushruti rishabham. But if one sings this krithi starting with shuddha
rishabham then it will not be pleasing to the ears. People sing it with
catushruti rishabham directly.One need not do that but one can start slightly
higher(rishabhathai konjam kooTi pidikkalAm)."
After this we proceeded with a casual 'conversation style' interview.
Q : Please tell us the story of how Ambi Dikshitar came to Chennai?
KMB:(with a smile) O That story...I shall tell you..It
was in the 1930's.AnantaKrishna Iyer was studying under Ambi Dikshitar
at Ettayapuram.His brother-in-law was Vedanta Bhagavatar,my guru.Infact
he had even met Subbrama Dikshitar in Ettayapuram through Sattanur Panju
Iyer or someone. I think he met him sometime around 1889.My guru was in
Kallidaikurichi.He was giving harikatha performances and concerts.So AnantaKrishna
Iyer called Vedanta Bhagavatar and told him ,"Let us learn Dikshitar kritis
from Ambi Dikshitar ..and in a few years they set up base in Chennai.So
around 1934 they brought Ambi Dikshitar to Chennai in a place near MirSahibpet.It
was later that they shifted.That house on Royapettah has not changed even
now.
It was in Ambi Dikshitar's pooja room that the palmleaf manuscripts
and the hand-drawn picture of Dikshitar was kept.Not the one with the veena...This
is the one published in the books of Veenai Sundaram Iyer.This portrait
of Dikshitar was supposedly drawn by an artiste when Dikshitar was in his
pooja by peeping into the room through an open window.Otherwise he did
not allow him to draw.. So we had copies of around 470 odd kritis.One copy
with me the disciple of Vedanta Bhagavatar,one with AnantaKrishna Iyer
and one with Sundaram Iyer.
Q: How many kritis were there in total?
KMB:There were atleast around 1000 kritis.
Q: Were there any titles on the manuscripts?
KMB: The Kamalamba navavarana kritis had the title and the tatparyam.Do
you see that picture [pointing to a picture in his pooja room].That is
the picture of Kameshwari - a pictorial representation of the line "shrIpura
bindu madyastha shivAkAramancastitha..." The rest were not labelled.Looking
at the vibhakti structure we did the grouping.And the Rahu and Ketu kritis
were not together with the other navagraha kritis.They were available as
part of the Lalithopakhyana kritis.
I can tell you there were kritis for all the names of the LalitaSahasranama
like shrImAta.
Q : Can you tell us something about the Harikatha which your
guru Vedanta Bhagavatar used to do ?
KMB: Yes.I have also accompanied him.He prepared the harikatha
niroopanam for the Lalitopakhyana kritis and he used to perform them.That
was about 1936-1937.The text available in the Sundaram Iyer book was prepared
by me.
Q :Tell us something about Ambi Dikshitar
KMB: He used to sing very well.Even at the age of 65 his shArIram
was very good.Infact his son Tiruvarur Baluswami and I were learning together
for sometime.
Q :What about the abhogi kriti, "shrI lakshmI varAham"? How do
we explain a raga which does not occur in the venkaTamakhin scheme or in
the anubandham?
KMB: Wouldnt I have asked this question? I did ask this..It
has come somehow and I have no explanations as to how it came.
Then the discussion passed on to some of the ragas and the way they
are sung now..
Continued in Part II
Disclaimer:
We are trying to be as objective as possible and the views expressed by the interviewees are solely theirs.